Trade the GTV6 for...

"Chairman Kaga" (mike-mckinnon) 08/19/2013 at 15:49 • Filed to: None

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Had an interesting question this morning. If I could straight-up trade my '82 GTV6 for another car, what would be on the list? The only requirements for this hypothetical are that it has to be a straight trade, with no dollar also exchanging hands, and that the new car be immediately road legal and ready to drive. I'd add that it has to complete the same equation as the GTV6, being a balance between cool & interesting, and good to drive as a toy/weekender. The dollar amount, I'd say around $8,500 based on current street value of a GTV6 in this condition.

So?

Sparf > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 15:51

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The answer is always... Yeah you know where I'm going with this. A nice 1.8 Miata should be a fair trade, right?

duurtlang > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 15:53

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The standard answer is Miata/E30, but that's too easy. A later Maserati Biturbo maybe?

6cyl > duurtlang 08/19/2013 at 15:56

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That sounds like a dangerous suggestion

Chairman Kaga > Sparf 08/19/2013 at 15:56

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You know, when I got the Alfa I was actually looking for Miata. I couldn't find one.

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 15:57

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Price range?

duurtlang > 6cyl 08/19/2013 at 15:57

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He's got an Alfa GTV at the moment. Besides, you need a little excitement in your life.

6cyl > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 15:58

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Audi Coupe? or even better Coupe Quattro if you are lucky

Because inline-5

Chairman Kaga > ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR 08/19/2013 at 15:58

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Variable. I'd say around $8,500, based on current street value of a GTV6 in this condition.

Sparf > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:01

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Ditto, except I ended up with my Celica GT-Four.

More Power!!and also some brakes. > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:03

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Is that yours?

If so, that body looks amazing!!

BJ > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:04

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The same car, but with some colour. Red, blue, green, black, hell even white would probably look better.

/not really a fan of a silver car (even if it's an Aston Martin)

SPNKiX > 6cyl 08/19/2013 at 16:06

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TWO turbos. How could this go wrong?

Chairman Kaga > More Power!!and also some brakes. 08/19/2013 at 16:07

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Thanks It is. That shot's several months old, actually. I've since finished out the interior (which I realize you can't really see here), although the seats need to be recovered. I'd also like to refinish the wheels, tint the windows, fully seal and paint the underbody, replace some worn bushing, install some Konis, lower the front, replace the mirrors, find a set of European bumpers or a Zender kit, and continue replacing the shot weather seals. You know, nothing too extensive! It's not concours, but it's rust free, a strong runner and reasonably well put back together, considering the number of factory parts that are now made with unobtanium.

Chairman Kaga > BJ 08/19/2013 at 16:08

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Yes, but mine has a blue leather interior...

More Power!!and also some brakes. > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:11

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That is awesome, I am super jealous!

daender > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:11

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E36 M3 Sedan, they can be purchased for $8,500 is decent condition. Not quite as unique as the GTV but they stand out against other pre-E92 M3's for their four doors. And four-doors means fun for four.

Chairman Kaga > SPNKiX 08/19/2013 at 16:12

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Exactly my though! 1980's Italian super tourer with twin turbos? Sign me up!

Chairman Kaga > 6cyl 08/19/2013 at 16:12

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Yep. Definitely. But for less than $10k in drivable condition?

BJ > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:14

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Classy! I'm sure it looks very nice. Just think how much sexier it would be with a brilliant white exterior, perhaps a subtle metallic white with a billion coats of clear to make it nice and deep...

(Still not sold on the silver, sorry.)

Chairman Kaga > Sparf 08/19/2013 at 16:15

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The All-Trac Turbo in the States. I have NEVER seen one on the road. Very cool car.

SPNKiX > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:15

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It's EYE- talian!

Sparf > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:16

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I know, and me neither until I bought mine!

Chairman Kaga > BJ 08/19/2013 at 16:17

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I was actually going to paint it a midnight blue or black, but I couldn't afford the total disassembly/rotisserie job necessary to really do the job right, so I stuck with the stock color. I think every '82 sold in the US was this sliver on blue scheme.

Agrajag > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:17

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The only thing I got is another GTV6 just in a different color if you'd prefer.

Chairman Kaga > daender 08/19/2013 at 16:18

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There's a beat one for sale in San Antonio for $8,000. Not that I'm actually going to pursue this... mostly just curious.

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:23

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05-09 Mustang GT S-197 v8 5 spd manual.

Cheap RWD fun. Lighter than cars in its segment(3400 lbs) and responds well to mods. It gives you a blank canvas to play with. Rather than following strict maintenance schedules.

Private party value is on par with your range. From the dealer they are 10k+ for some reason.

That is what I'd do. Spend my next few paychecks on lighter wheels, lighter driveshaft, lighter flywheel, and lighter/better seats. Then enjoy it in stock form.

I know this doesnt really compete in coolness factor but.../fordfan
//dontgetridofthegtv6

daender > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:26

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW…

Silver on dark grey/light grey for the same price.

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:50

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A TVR. With the brand coming back, they will soon rise in value, but not yet.

You can get a S for around 5000 - 7000 euro, and a Chimaera for 7000 +

1. They look awesome.

(TVR S2)

(Chimaera)

2. They not only look great, they sound epic too.

Chairman Kaga > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 08/19/2013 at 16:53

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Cool, but I'm relatively certain the US government would crush it as soon as it hit the port!

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 16:56

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There is a TVR club of North America.

http://www.tvrccna.org/

It is possible.

Chairman Kaga > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 08/19/2013 at 18:00

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A TVR would be the only car that would require a greater degree of insanity to own than an Alfa. true story.

Biapilotaceman > ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR 08/19/2013 at 19:42

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Maybe with 100k miles, you could get one for $10k. Iffy.

6cyl > Chairman Kaga 08/19/2013 at 23:45

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Find a Callaway GTV6 twin turbo!

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Chairman Kaga 08/20/2013 at 04:44

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I'm struggling to think of something that I would actually swap a functional GTV6 for.

Maybe another GTV6 with a 3.0l engine that needed a little work (to equalise the value).

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > Biapilotaceman 08/20/2013 at 09:21

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Depending on the area. Are you arguing a plus minus of like a grand? I was lookin at them early that day and found plenty.

Chairman Kaga > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 08/20/2013 at 10:23

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Yeah, see? It's hard.

M3 is too plebeian. Miata is too common. Maybe... a Ford Capri John Player Edition?

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Chairman Kaga 08/20/2013 at 14:06

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I think a later BiTurbo, maybe a 222 is the only thing I can think of that would actually be a step up from a GTV6 (same levels of class, slightly more performance).

I'm pretty certain the Capri will have a different reputation in the States, but over here they were the equivalent of Camaros. Basically cars for people with mullets.

Could you get an Esprit for GTV6 money? It'd have to be a turbo to equal the GTV6 in coolness.

Biapilotaceman > ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR 08/20/2013 at 14:47

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Maybe it just depends on the area, like you said.

Upon further research, that seems about right. I guess my inner calculator was disagreeing with that estimate because I haven't looked at higher mileage mustangs before. I'm really surprised they can be had for that cheap.

Chairman Kaga > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 08/20/2013 at 14:52

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A friend of mine back in my hometown posted a link to an Esprit for sale in that price range.

Honestly, Lotus scares me far more than Alfa.

Actually, I'm thinking I'll just wait until I can afford to get an older GTV 2000, or hell, a Montreal. Screw the "no additional money" provision.

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > Biapilotaceman 08/20/2013 at 14:56

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I was looking at one in a salvage yard with no front end for dirt cheap. Had to walk away from that one. I was thinking...who needs a front bumper anyways?

Biapilotaceman > ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR 08/20/2013 at 15:07

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But that's half of the work for a GT500 front end conversion done! :P

http://www.americanmuscle.com/gt500-conversi…

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > Biapilotaceman 08/20/2013 at 15:31

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Nice. Id like it sans snake. So people would know what it is with out me looking like I am pretending too hard.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Chairman Kaga 08/20/2013 at 17:02

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Good point. My dad's mate had an Elite back in the day. He also had a bicycle. He reckoned he did more miles on the bike than the Elite.

Still really cool though.

I think a Montreal would be one of the few things I'd swap a GTV6 for full stop.

Chairman Kaga > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 08/20/2013 at 17:12

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http://bringatrailer.com/2013/07/26/sho…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alfa-Romeo…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Make…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Opel-GT-GT…

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Chairman Kaga 08/20/2013 at 17:46

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Dat Interceptor.

That would be a step up from a GTV6. I want it.

I've got a soft-spot for the little Opel GTs too, especially with a hotter engine swapped in. Give them the speed to back up their looks.

Chairman Kaga > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 08/20/2013 at 17:53

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There's an Opel that comes to cars 'n' coffee from time to time with a turbo charged 1.6 and transmission from an NA Miata. It's batshit and I love it.